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Hollywood Stuntman Said “Movie Fights Are Fake” To John Wayne — 5 Seconds Later He Apologized

Says you and me are old men playing dress-up. Wayne lit a cigarette. He didn’t say anything for a long time. Yakima waited. Finally, Wayne spoke. How old is he? 26. How long he been on the picture? Two days. Wayne nodded slowly. Yuck, he said, let me talk to him. Yakima frowned. Duke, let me handle it. I’ll send him home.

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We don’t need a kid like that on the set. No. Duke, I’m telling you. You break. Wayne’s voice was quiet, calm, the in way he always was right before something happened. Let me talk to him. Yakima looked at him for a long moment. Then he nodded. He walked away. Bobby Ritter was sitting on the back of a truck drinking a Coke when John Wayne walked over to him.

He stood up fast. He almost dropped the bottle. Mr. Wayne. His voice cracked a little. He hated that. He cleared his throat. Mr. Wayne, sir, it’s an honor. Wayne studied him. He took a long drag of his cigarette. You, Bobby? Yes, sir. Yak says you’ve been talking about the stunt work. About the fights.

The kid shifted his weight. He glanced around. None of the other crew members were close enough to hear. They were all watching though. From a distance. Pretending to do other things. I Mr. Wayne, sir, I just Just what? The kid swallowed. He had been waiting for this moment in a way. He had been imagining it every night since he had gotten the job.

The moment when John Wayne, the great John Wayne, would notice him. The moment when he would say something that would make the legend remember his name. He had practiced what he would say. He took a breath. Sir, he said, with all respect, the fights in the movies, they’re not real. The stuntmen, they pull the punches.

They sell the falls. It’s all choreography. And I I just think I think maybe people deserve to see what a real fight looks like. That’s all I was saying. Wayne studied him. He didn’t say anything for a long moment. Then he flicked his cigarette into the dirt. He stepped on it. Son, he said, what did you do before you came to Hollywood? I wrestled. College.

Two-time Big Ten champion. What weight class? 190. You ever fight a man bigger than you? The kid hesitated. In wrestling? No, we had weight classes. In real life? I’m once in a bar in Bloomington. Guy was about 220. I knocked him out. Wayne nodded. How long ago was that? Couple years. Wayne lit another cigarette. He looked off across the desert.

The sun was getting higher. The crew members in the distance were still pretending to do their jobs. Two of the older stuntmen, Cliff Lyons and Chuck Roberson, who had been with Wayne for 20 years, were standing by the equipment truck, watching. Wayne turned back to the kid. You really think movie fights are fake? The kid hesitated.

He could feel something happening. He could feel the air changing, the way it changes right before a thunderstorm rolls into the Indiana cornfields. He could feel the older stuntmen watching. He could feel the silence on the set, but he couldn’t back down now. He had come too far. He had said too much. He squared his shoulders. Yes, sir.

With respect, I think they’re fake. I think most of you guys couldn’t take a real punch. Wayne nodded slowly. He took a long drag of his cigarette. Then he did something the kid did not expect. He smiled. It was a small smile, almost gentle, the way a grandfather smiles at a child who has just said something very stupid and very innocent at the same time.

All right, Wayne said. All right, son. I’ll tell you what. He gestured to the open patch of dirt between the equipment trucks. Why don’t you and I have a little demonstration? Just for educational purposes. So you can see what’s fake and what’s real. The kid blinked. You You mean you and me? That’s what I mean.

Sir, I I can’t fight you. You’re John Wayne. I’m a 55-year-old man, son. You’re a two-time Big Ten champion. You said yourself you can take any man on this set. So let’s see. No hard punches. No closed fists. We’ll keep it light. Just a little demonstration. The kid stared at him. His mouth was dry. Suddenly, he wasn’t sure about anything anymore, but the older stunt men were watching.

Then Cliff and Chuck and Yakima, who had walked back over, and three or four other crew members who had drifted closer, sensing something. He could feel them watching. He could feel his pride backing him into a corner. He nodded. “Okay,” he said. His voice was a little smaller than he wanted it to be. “Okay, sir.

” “A demonstration.” Wayne smiled again. “Good,” he said. “Good. Come over here.” They walked together to the open patch of dirt. The crew members began to gather quietly, the way men gather when they know something is about to happen but don’t want to make a um sound that might stop it. Wayne took off his jacket. He folded it.

He laid it on the hood of the equipment truck. He took off his hat. He set it on top of the jacket. He turned around. He was standing in the middle of the dirt now. 6’4″, 240 lb. His sleeves rolled up. His suspenders dark against his white shirt. His blue eyes calm in the bright desert sun.

The kid stood across from him, 6 ft. 195, younger, faster, stronger by every measurable standard. A two-time Big Ten wrestling champion. 12 professional fights. 11 wins. He should have been favored by every measurement that existed in the world. He should have been favored. He was not. “Now, son,” Wayne said, “I want you to come at me. Real attack.

Whatever you want. Whatever your best move is. I won’t punch you. I’ll just defend. Show me what a real fight looks like.” The kid hesitated. “Sir, are you sure?” “I’m sure. Come at me.” The kid took a breath. He thought about what he had been taught. He thought about his college coach, coach Henderson, who had once told him, “Don’t think when you fight. Move.

Think later.” He moved. He shot in low, the way he had been taught. Single leg takedown, the move he had used to win two Big Ten championships. He aimed for Wayne’s left leg. He had executed this move thousands of times. It was his best move. His safest move. The move he could do in his sleep. Wayne saw it coming. The crew members who watched said later that Wayne had seen it coming the moment Bobby Ritter shifted his weight.

Maybe even before. Maybe Wayne had been watching the kid’s eyes the whole time, the way old fighters watch eyes, looking for the half second before a man commits. Whatever it was, Wayne moved. He stepped to the right. 6 inches. The smallest movement possible. And as Bobby Ritter’s hands closed on empty air, as his head dropped lower than his hips, as his entire body weight committed forward, Wayne brought his right knee up, not hard, not even fast, but timed exactly right.

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