None of what I’m about to show you changes that. But what I am here to do is exactly what I always [music] do on this channel. I go to the primary sources, I check the timeline, and then I let the evidence speak [music] so that you can decide for yourself. So, Art of Dialogue released a 3-hour interview of Khalilah Ali [music] Camacho, and there’s a segment where she talks about her martial arts background, her connection to Jhoon Rhee, and her claim that she trained with Bruce Lee for 9 months.
I’ve pulled the relevant clips, so let’s go through them one at a time. Jhoon Rhee was my instructor. And Jhoon Rhee was taught by Bruce Lee. What? She says Jhoon Rhee was her instructor. That’s fine. We’ll come back to that when we look at the 1977 Ebony magazine. But she also says something very specific that Jhoon Rhee was taught by Bruce Lee.
>> [music] >> And that’s not what happened at all. And if you’ve seen my original video on this channel covering the real history of Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali, well, you guys already know this. But, for those who haven’t, Jhoon Rhee and Bruce Lee met at the 1964 Long Beach International Karate Championships.
They became close friends. And what they had was a mutual exchange of techniques, not a student-teacher relationship. Jhoon Rhee taught Bruce Lee the mechanics [music] of the traditional Taekwondo high sidekick. Bruce Lee taught Jhoon Rhee a specialized non-telegraphic straight punch that Rhee would later develop into what he called the Accu-Punch.
Jhoon Rhee was already an established Taekwondo master in 1964. He’s known as the father of American Taekwondo. He was not Bruce Lee’s [music] student. He was his peer. And she has this relationship completely inverted. That’s the first problem. Now, let’s hear the next claim. This old Chinese guy comes in and he said, “You know what? I need you to um give me some films on Muhammad Ali so I can study his style.
” And I said, “Okay, so what you going to give me?” He said, “I teach you Wing Chun.” Okay, stop the clip. So, her story is that Jhoon Rhee sends this man to meet her. And when he arrives, she doesn’t even know who he is. He introduces himself by offering to teach her Wing Chun in exchange for boxing films of Muhammad Ali.
Now, two things jump out at me immediately. First off, the film exchange. >> [music] >> We know from multiple primary sources, including Robert Clouse’s The Making of Enter the Dragon [music] and accounts from Bruce Lee’s closest students, that Bruce Lee had been obsessively collecting and studying Muhammad Ali’s fight films since the Sonny Liston bout in 1964.
He amassed a personal [music] collection of over 500 boxing films and he had a hand-cranked editing machine. He watched Ali frame by frame for years. By the time the supposed meeting would have had to have occurred, Bruce Lee had been studying Muhammad Ali for close to a decade. He didn’t need anyone to supply him with Ali footage.
He already had it. Second, and this one [music] is kind of subtle, but for anyone with real knowledge of Bruce Lee, it’s the most revealing detail in this entire interview. She says Bruce Lee offered to teach her Wing Chun. And I said, “Okay, so what you going to give me?” He said, “I teach you Wing Chun.” But Bruce Lee did not teach Wing Chun.
Pay attention now. Bruce Lee was very deliberate about this. [music] He called his system Jun Fan Gung Fu specifically because he did not want anyone going around saying [music] that they studied Wing Chun with him. He was protective of his relationship with Yip Man and he didn’t want word getting back to his Sifu that he was out teaching the Wing Chun name.
This wasn’t a minor terminology preference. It was a firm boundary that everyone who actually spent serious time with Bruce Lee understood. So, for 9 months we worked together. And that person who was my instructor for 9 months was Bruce Lee. Someone who trained under him for 9 months would not call what he taught them Wing Chun.
That’s not what he called it. That’s not what he allowed anyone to call it. And there’s always going to be those super dorks out there who like to challenge me on everything and ask, “Well, what about the Wing Chun book that James Lee wrote?” Okay, well, this book that you’re talking about, okay, James Lee didn’t write this book.
Bruce Lee was actually the ghostwriter and he gave James Lee the authorship credits because James Lee was dying of cancer at the time and Bruce Lee wanted to give some money to his friend. But, let’s get back to the video. There was a time where I had to he took a whip, and I was supposed to jump, and he would throw your leg, and you’re supposed to jump.
And, oh man, almost got hit with that whip. Okay, a few things here. Let’s take them in order. Nine months of training [music] and a specific memory, Bruce Lee using a whip to force her to jump higher during a drill. >> He used to uh study gymnastics. >> [music] >> He used to jump over people’s heads. That’s why he was so good at what he did.
And Bruce Lee doing gymnastics, jumping over people, doing backflips, and this being the reason he was so good at what he did. But, let’s start with the timeline, because this is where the story becomes not just questionable, but chronologically impossible. June Rhee is documented on the record that he first met Muhammad Ali in 1975. >> Uh when he uh announced the fight against the Japanese restaurant.
And uh one of my friends introduced me to Muhammad Ali >> [music] >> that I was the best one to teach him how to block when he kicked. Bruce Lee died in July of 1973. >> [music] >> Her story requires June Rhee to broker the introduction between her and Bruce Lee through the Holly connection, [music] but June Rhee hadn’t met Muhammad Ali yet when Bruce was alive.
The bridge that [music] she’s describing didn’t exist. It couldn’t have existed. And if you add the 9-month training timeline on top of that, well, 9 months before July 1973 takes you back to late 1972 at the earliest, and at that point, Bruce Lee was in Hong Kong starting pre-production on Enter the Dragon.
During the whole process of making Enter the Dragon, he’d end up overworked, physically depleted, and he’d [music] end up suffering a near-fatal cerebral edema just months later in May 1973. And there’s no window in Bruce Lee’s documented movements and health during that period where a 9-month martial arts teaching relationship with someone in the United States fits.
Now, that gymnastics claim, Bruce Lee could jump. He could really jump remarkably high. [music] And if you’ve seen the film Marlowe, you’ve seen him kick a lamp overhead from a standing position. That’s real. That’s him actually doing that. Extraordinary explosive leg power from doing isometrics and other exercises.
And he does something similar in Way of the Dragon. That part is documented and it’s genuine and it’s real. But gymnastics, tumbling, backflips? Look, Bruce Lee actually failed a gymnastics course when he was a student at the University of Washington. That’s on the record. He was an explosive, technically precise martial artist.
He was a great athlete, [music] but not a gymnast or an acrobat. Those are completely different physical disciplines. So, where did the backflips actually come from? That’s Yuen Wah, Bruce Lee’s stunt double on Fist of Fury and Enter the Dragon. Yuen Wah was a genuine acrobat. He was trained [music] in the Peking Opera tradition along with Jackie Chan, Sammo Hung, Yuen Biao, and a member of the Seven Little Fortunes.
This guy was capable of the kind of aerial work you’re seeing right there. The jumping over people, the flips, >> [music] >> that’s Yuen Wah’s body, not Bruce Lee’s. And these, the almost superhuman jumping feats in Bruce Lee’s first two films, those were director Lo Wei’s doing, not Bruce Lee’s.
Lo Wei came from a wuxia filmmaking tradition where gravity-defying leaps were standard visual language. He used camera tricks to achieve them, filming Bruce Lee jumping down from a height and running [music] the footage in reverse. He was using trampolines kept off camera to give his films that wuxia flavor. But here’s what’s telling.
The moment Bruce Lee gained creative control over his own work, starting with Way of the Dragon, those sequences disappeared entirely cuz that wasn’t Bruce Lee’s vision of what martial arts on film should look like. He wanted to show what the art actually was. The flying leaps belong to Lo Wei’s Bruce Lee, not Bruce Lee’s Bruce Lee.
And now, that whip drill? There was a time when I hit the He took a whip, and I was supposed to jump, and he’d throw your leg, and you’re supposed to jump. A training drill involving a whip to make someone jump higher? Look, I don’t know of any legitimate training methodology, martial arts, gymnastics, acrobatics, [music] athletics, where that’s actually a recognized technique for training.
I mean, what it does sound like is a scene from a 1970s kung fu movie. The harsh master, the student who must jump higher or face the whip. It’s a cinematic trope, and it shows up in dozens of films from that era, but it is not something that appears anywhere in the documented accounts of how Bruce Lee actually trained his students.
I think I his murder was a setup. I They set him up. I think it was cuz Raymond Chow didn’t want to give him $300,000 for the rest of his life. If he had did after you finished the uh the Game of Death uh movie. Here, she shares her theory about why Bruce Lee died. I’m not going to spend a lot of time here, but I will say this, that [music] specific claim about Raymond Chow has been examined carefully by serious Bruce Lee researchers for a very long time.
It doesn’t hold up. And just for some perspective, Bruce Lee’s estate generates considerably more than $300,000 a year from his legacy. It has for decades. The idea that $300,000 represented a meaningful financial motive for someone of Raymond Chow’s standing in the Hong Kong film industry, it doesn’t survive basic scrutiny, and I’ll leave that right there where it is.
Let’s move on. You really know karate? You didn’t see me on the cover with Jim Kelly, me whooping Jim Kelly? Oh, I’m on the cover Ebony Ebony magazine fighting Jim Kelly. Are you kidding me? Now, this part here is interesting because she just handed us something. She’s pointing to the 1977 Ebony magazine as proof of her martial arts credentials.
She brought the receipt herself. Damn. Damn. Damn. So, let’s read it. September 1977, Ebony magazine. Khalilah Ali is on the cover with Jim Kelly. [music] This is real. This happened. Her martial arts background is documented right here in a primary source from 1977, [music] published while everything was still fresh.
And before we look at what the article actually says, I have to mention something because [music] it’s one of the more ironic details of this entire situation. That [music] Facebook clip from Art of Dialogue, the short version that went viral before the full interview even dropped, it got almost 70,000 likes and over 15,000 shares, nearly 3,000 comments.
[music] People debating whether she trained with Bruce Lee. People weighing in on the conspiracy theory about Bruce Lee’s death. But you know what the one claim was that people had the most trouble believing? That she whooped up on Jim Kelly. The woman who is literally on the cover of Ebony magazine sparring with Jim Kelly, that’s the claim that broke people’s credibility meter.
Not 9 months of secret training with Bruce Lee, but that she beat up [music] Jim Kelly. But anyway, the article is titled Martial Art Disciplines Her New Life, and it covers her martial arts background in detail. And here’s what her documented training lineage looks like in 1977. [music] In her own profile, published while these events were still recent, she studied Okinawan Kempo karate under Jimmy Jones, a 7-degree master of the Universal style.
She trained with Steve Saunders, now Steve Muhammad, of the Black Karate Federation in Los Angeles. She sparred regularly with Jim [music] Kelly. At the time of publication, she held a third-degree black belt. And then there’s this, the caption on this page. [music] I’m going to read it exactly as it appears in print. Khalilah Ali, former wife of heavyweight champion Muhammad Ali, is a karate expert who has a black belt, third degree.
She works out frequently with actor karate expert Jim Kelly. That is the document proof of her credentials. Jimmy Jones, Steve Saunders, Jim Kelly, [music] third-degree black belt. No mention of June Ree, no mention of Bruce Lee, >> [music] >> no mention of Wing Chun or Jun Fan Gung Fu, or even Jeet Kune Do.
No mention of a film exchange, no mention of a whip, no mention of gymnastics or jumping drills, none of it. She brought the receipt, and the receipt tells a different story. Are you kidding me? Now, I want to address something directly because I know some of you are thinking what the original commenter was thinking in that comment thread.
They made the argument that you can’t call someone a liar if you weren’t there, and they use an interesting comparison. [music] They said they know someone who told them that Malcolm X met Bruce Lee, >> [music] >> and there are no photos of that either. So, does that mean the event didn’t happen? And look, they’re not wrong that the absence of a photograph alone doesn’t prove something didn’t occur.
That’s a fair point in isolation. But here’s the distinction. What we’re dealing with here isn’t just a missing photograph. We’re dealing with a stack of independent contradictions, each one verifiable on its own, completely separate from the others. The timeline is chronologically impossible, and that’s not an opinion.
That’s June Ree’s own documented account of when he first met Muhammad Ali measured against the documented date of Bruce Bruce death. The film exchange story doesn’t survive basic research and a Bruce Lee’s documented collecting habits going back to 1964. The terminology is wrong in a way that a genuine student of Bruce Lee wouldn’t get wrong.
The teacher relationship between Jhoon Rhee and Bruce Lee is factually inverted. The acrobatic feats she attributes to Bruce Lee were performed by a stunt double or achieved through camera tricks by a director whose creative choices Bruce Lee later rejected entirely. And the primary source document she herself cited as proof documents a completely different training lineage with two instructors that she didn’t mention at all in this recent interview.
But here’s the one that I keep coming back to. Bruce Lee kept a daily planner. He documented his workouts, his meetings, his training sessions. Anything of significance in his life went into that planner. This is well established. The people closest to him have confirmed it. And his training journals and notes have been referenced extensively by serious Bruce Lee biographers.
Now think about what we’re being asked to believe. That Bruce Lee, one of the most [music] famous martial artist on the entire planet by the early 1970s, entered into a 9-month teacher relationship with the wife of Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali, the most famous athlete in the world at that time. And this arrangement, this ongoing months-long exchange involving two of the most recognizable names in sports and entertainment, left absolutely no trace in Bruce Lee’s own records.
[music] No entry, no note, no reference of any kind. Bruce Lee wrote down his workouts. He wrote down his meetings. And if he were training Khalilah Ali for 9 months in exchange for five films of a man that he had been obsessively studying for nearly a decade, that would not have been a casual Tuesday afternoon for him.
That would have been one of the most significant training relationships of his life. It would have been in the planner. >> [music] >> The absence of evidence in this specific case is not nothing. It’s meaningful because we’re not talking about a missing photograph of two people who happen to be in the same city.
We’re talking about the absence of any record from a [music] man who made records of everything. That’s not absence of evidence. That’s the presence of contradiction and it runs throughout [music] every single layer of her story. So, when someone says you can’t call her a liar because you weren’t there, [music] look, I hear that.
I understand the instinct. But on this channel, we don’t work from vibes. We work from documents. We work from timelines. We work from the words people actually said and the records they actually left behind. And the records, they don’t support this story, not even close. But here’s what I want to make clear in this video.
Kalila Ali Camacho is a real martial artist with a real and impressive documented history. Jimmy Jones is a legitimate instructor. Steve Sanders, now known as Steve Muhammad and the Black Karate Federation were the real deal. This guy was a serious competitor during the 1960s blood and guts karate era and Bruce Lee was actually really impressed with him.
Like he really knew Bruce Lee, unlike Kalila Ali. And then there’s Jim Kelly, a world-class martial artist and a film star. All of the people that were in her network, this stuff is genuinely impressive. She reached third-degree black belt by 1977 while simultaneously navigating life as Muhammad Ali’s ex-wife.
[music] She was operating within the codes of the Nation of Islam and building a career in Hollywood security. Look, that is a remarkable story on its own terms. That story doesn’t need Bruce Lee in it to be worthy of respect. But once Bruce Lee gets added without a timeline that works, without the terminology being right, without a primary source backing any of it up, without a single entry in the most meticulous record keeper in the room, it stops being her documented story and starts being something else entirely. [music]
And that matters, not to score points, but because there are real people [music] in this history whose contributions are accurate and documented. Jhoon Rhee is one of them. His relationship with both Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali is confirmed source, and as I’ve covered on this channel, acknowledged by Muhammad Ali himself on national television.
Are you going to use that right hand, Mr. Jhoon Rhee is his name. He’s training him in there for the Japanese wrestler. Yes, that wasn’t a right hand. That was the unique accu-punch. Every time a new version of this myth surfaces, it makes that real story a little harder to find, and the people who actually lived it deserve better than that.
Look, a few weeks ago I put out a video on this channel covering the real history of Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali. I talked about the content farms [music] manufacturing fake encounters, fake fights, the 1966 television critic whose single sentence launched 50 years of this myth, [music] the mirror in the Hong Kong studio, the accu-punch, the Richard Dunn knockout, and Muhammad Ali on camera telling the world where that punch came from.
That video covers the real Jhoon Rhee story, the documented one. And once you’ve seen it, I think you’ll understand exactly why this particular interview caught my attention and why the details always matter. Look, it’s linked below in the comments, and it’s also in the video description because look, here’s the thing, the real connection between Bruce Lee and Muhammad Ali is documented and it’s confirmed.
It’s on film, and it doesn’t require a single invented detail. It never did. But also, look, if you missed it, check out this new series we’re doing mixing [music] martial arts and philosophy. You can check the first episode in the series on Steven Seagal and Socrates. I’ll also be getting back to the documentaries.
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